John McDonnell’s Quite Right, Jews Who Fight For Israel Should Be Stripped Of British Citizenship

Quite why anyone would think this controversial is a little difficult to understand. Quite obviously those members of the Stern Gang, or Irgun, who fought against the British Mandate troops in Palestine should be stripped of their British citizenship. Taking up arms against the forces of Her Majesty – His Majesty as was – should have that effect, no?

John McDonnell argued Britons who fought for Israel against Palestine should face the threat of losing their citizenship in a letter that emerged 24 hours after Jeremy Corbyn said jihadi bride Shamima Begum should keep her passport. The shadow chancellor wrote to then Home Secretary Theresa May in 2014 saying she should censure British citizens who served in the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) and mete out the same punishment given to those who joined ISIS. Yesterday his party leader said Shamima Begum and her newborn baby should be allowed to return from Syria and given the ‘support that she needs’ by the authorities. Yet Mr McDonnell argued the Government’s policy to strip violent jihadis of their passports should be widened to those who went to fight for the Israeli Defence Force against the Palestinians in Gaza – with some critics calling it ‘hypocrisy’. Writing in July 2014 Mr McDonnell said: ‘Will you be warning any British citizens considering engagement with the IDF that such engagement may put their British citizenship in jeopardy?

Except, of course, that’s not what did happen, is it? Those Irgun who fought against the Brits who were caught were hanged. Possibly for treason if they were Brits, for terrorism if they weren’t, but citizenship was something that one might betray, not something one could lose.

Actually, it rather went the other way at times. Lord Haw Haw was informed – much to the surprise of both himself and international law – that he was an Irishman and thus had been an Englishman so we could now hang him for treason. We insisted he was so we could punish him.

McDonnell is of course wrong for McDonnell is wrong, goes without saying. The why being that it’s not fighting for someone else that matters. Those who fight for Palestine against Israel don’t lose the blue passport either. It’s fighting against the Queen’s peeps that is the point. And it shouldn’t be anyway but that’s another matter.

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Many countries have statutes on the books against participating in terrorism, be it on the front line or in the supply corps. I’m surprised that the UK doesn’t. Because if the UK doesn’t it is de facto supporting terrorism.

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Shadeburst is obviously either German or left-wing. In the UK there are things that are neither compulsory nor forbidden, such putting milk in one’s coffee or even choosing to pour milk before/after pouring tea into one’s cup.

Shadeburst
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Shadeburst

Comparing terrorism to pouring milk into a teacup… how veddy Briddish.

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“Actually, it rather went the other way at times. Lord Haw Haw was
informed – much to the surprise of both himself and international law –
that he was an Irishman and thus had been an Englishman so we could now
hang him for treason.”
He kept his British Passport. Big mistake.

Andrew Witcombe-Small
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IIRC HawHaw was a US citizen at the time he was tried and the lawyers had to think up a way to decide he was really British.

Jonathan Harston
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Jonathan Harston

Wasn’t it said that William Joyce was hanged for incorrect information on his passport application, a act that normally incured a fine of a few pounds.

Q46
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Q46

2 500 British citizens joined the International Brigagdes and went to fight in the Spanish Civil War which broke out in 1936. What happened to them when they returned home?

Would Mr McDonnell agree that the Lefties who went to fight the Fascists should have been stripped of citizenship?

Quentin Vole
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Quentin Vole

TBF neither side in Spain was threatening to blow up British schoolkids.

B. Terclinger
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B. Terclinger

Jews never blew up British school kids.

In 1948 they killed British soldiers working for the country THAT TRIIED TO HELP MUSLIMS EXTERMINATE JEWISH ISRAEL.

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B. Terclinger

“Palestine” was a ROMAN name given to the region when THEY tried to exterminate Jewish Israel. .ROME FAILED, ISRAEL IS HERE (and “was Palestine” under the Mandate). There are FIFTY SIX MUSLIM countries, one for Jews, and 90% of the so-called “palestinians” have clan names showing THEIR ancestors came from the surrounding Arab land. Jews from Israel, from the surrounding mideast countries and from Europe and America, ALL, for thousands of years, have spoken of Zion in prayers and deeds. (Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the koran): http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2012/02/claiming-jerusalem-is-in-the-koran Anyone who supports so-called “palestinians” over Jewish Israel should get their… Read more »