According To DeSmog Tim Worstall Is A Climate Denier

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I find that I’m listed as a climate denier. Someone actively preventing the world from dealing with the major problem de nos jours. This according to an organisation called DeSmog:

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Well, OK, and we find this entry:

Tim Worstall

There we go then eh, proof perfect!

It’s just that they’re using a very, entirely, strange definition of climate denier. Now these are the quotes that they are using mind, this is not me trawling for things that show me in a better light. These are the quotes they themselves pick up to show that I am in fact a climate denier:

November 20, 2013

In a blog post for the Adam Smith Institute, Worstall wrote[18]

If we are to believe that climate change is happening, that it is indeed something we must do about and further, that it is us causing the problem, then the answer is a carbon tax at that social cost of carbon emissions.”

That’s cute, isn’t it? I agree with the Stern Review and William Nordhaus (and yes, I can even explain the difference between their approaches) and that makes me a climate denier?

January 7, 2016

Worstall took issue with the way the EU has dealt with climate change and wrote, “assuming, for the sake of argument, that there is a problem that needs solving”, “we here at the [Adam Smith Institute] have always been in favour of a carbon tax. We know very well that, whatever the reality of climate change, some fool somewhere is going to do something. So, let’s make sure that what is done is minimally damaging and might even have some useful side effects”.

Apparently recommending the solution that near all economists do make me a denier.

Which is, don’t you think, an interesting insight into who is a climate denier and why. Saying that, to solve this problem “Do this over here, not that over there” is to deny a solution?

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Cf trans, racism, tax avoidance:

Stage 1 – define trans/racism/tax avoidance in a very wide way that captures all of your enemies.
Stage 2 – accuse your enemies of being a TERF/racist/tax avoider.
Stage 3 – if they disagree with your definition, use that as yet further evidence that they are a TERF/racist/tax avoider.
Stage 4 – …
Stage 5 – PROFIT!

Spike
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Spike

You pandered to the left with your suggestion that a clever alternative to forcing us to live according to their values was a carbon tax that would use fake prices to nudge us to live according to their values. I am delighted you got singed. These people are not sincere.

Addolff
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Addolff

Spike +100.
These people are insane and nothing you (we) ever say or do will change their minds (ditto SJW and BLM).

Pat
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Pat

Perhaps time to acknowledge that the whole point of climate theory is to present a problem that is insoluble to western civilization and hence being about its end.
Anyone proposing a solution from within western civilization is therefore denying the point of the theory.

John B
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John B

‘ “assuming, for the sake of argument, that there is a problem that needs solving”

Gasp!

That’s like Galileo saying before the Church Court trying him for heresy, “Assuming, for the sake of argument, that there is a God…”

That was your mistake, you did not avow your absolute, total belief in the dogma of Holy Gaia The Climate Church.

Tristram Fuller
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Tristram Fuller

I take your point but it should be noted that Galileo was a Christian and continued to go to Church during and after his trial so there is no evidence he didn’t believe in God. The pope just didn’t like Galileo pointing out that his worldview might not be correct.

As to “climate change” can someone point out to me when, during the lifetime of this planet we occupy, climate didn’t change?

Jim
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Jim

To quote the sage Nelson Muntz, Ha Ha!!

You run with the loony left, they will turn on you eventually. Let this be a lesson to you, the Climate Change rhetoric is nothing to do with Climate and everything to do with Power, and who has it. They are not interested in solutions to a problem, they want power, raw power. And useful idiots like you are helping them to get it.

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Boganboy - The Chemtrail Kid

I have seen Greenies saying that, even if climate change is wrong, the beauty of the ‘reforms’ they wish to introduce makes it absolutely immoral not to support it.

Thus your offering a reasoned examination of what they claim to want is like me saying that the easy way to ‘solve’ climate change is to make sure there’s plenty of sulphur in jet fuel.

Leo Savantt
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Leo Savantt

Whilst the idea that people should be taxed for using one of the essential building blocks of life in no more or less morally abhorrent than proposing a tax on breathing, the idea that the author is a denier of climate is absurd. Almost as absurd as the notion that the UK, which contributes 1 part per million of this life giving trace gas into the atmosphere, should desist.

Pete the Other
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Pete the Other

They are probably going off the “if we believe…” part. It’s interesting that they expect anyone who admits there might be a question there is going to come to an answer they don’t like.

Bongo
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Bongo

May be they should do a League Table of climate deniers. Firstly I think you would be placed in the bottom division, but it would force the people making the league table to think about what they were claiming. Anyone even mentioning RCP 8.5 as a reason to take action is surely a reality denier, so compiling denialist rankings would be a good exercise for the filth in examining their own insistences.

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GR8M8S

Tim should wear their criticism as a gilded cloak! By the way, this bloke reckons we need an economic contraction 4 times greater than COVID-19 to make a difference (Compliments of marginalrevolution.com).

https://www.drroyspencer.com/2020/06/covid-19-global-economic-downturn-not-affecting-co2-rise-may-2020-update/

Peter
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Peter

The whole climate change/warming/emergency matter has been described as a religion. To question the tenets of the faith invites you being treated as a heretic climate denier however reasoned your arguments might be.
DeSmog is simply defining the good ‘uns versus the bad ‘uns.
It should come as no surprise you fall into the naughty camp, Tim.
Take it as a compliment. Perhaps add it to the site as an endorsement of scepticism.