Lordy Be Folks, This Isn’t How Vaccines Work

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Everyone’s being terrible and nationalist and really not supranational because there are lots of different vaccine programs going on. We should of course be supranational, give the job to the World Health Organisation and wait until the bureaucrats have sorted out the diversity issue on the choccie biccie committee and thus got around to actually doing something.

That is actually the argument being put forward here:

The WHO last week warned against “vaccine nationalism”, noting that unless countries cooperate, an actually successful vaccine could touch off a worldwide frenzy. Similar to the scramble for PPE gear and testing reagents when governments seized exports, and the US reportedly tried to intercept other nation’s shipments at global ports, demand for vaccine supplies could result in another pitched battle for limited resources – with the added complication that no one knows which project will succeed, so no one is even sure what they’re trying to source yet.

And, while some vaccine projects have promised to make the results as cheap and widely available as possible, others are frighteningly marketised.

This all being rampant idiocy of course.

If a vaccine really does mark the end of the crisis, it will be a particularly perverse tragedy if the very nations that have failed up until now manage to turn it into a zero-sum game in which the country with the most money buys the most vaccine – leaving everyone else shut out.

And that’s twattery.

So, what is the scarce resource here? The answer is not doses of vaccines. It’s the knowledge of how to make a vaccine that works. So, 100 – by one count – programs to develop a vaccine is just great. It means 100 teams of bright people all working to try and see how it is possible to make a vaccine. This is going to succeed better than the same number of people all working on the one program to make the one vaccine. For as should be obvious we don;t know how to make a vaccine therefore we cannot just proceed down the one path to the one vaccine. We must experiment that it.

Once we know how to make a vaccine then there is no shortage of that knowledge of how to make a vaccine. Any one of those 100 teams and many others could, if told how it was done, replicate that work and or knowledge.

Which is, of course, why we have intellectual property laws. Because there are some things which are very difficult to do for the first time and then trivially easy to copy once they have been done. Discover a drug, design a vaccine, being high up of the lists of those things that this is true of. That we have IP for drugs is simply confirmation that this is true.

Further, for anything important we also provide governments with the power to break IP and get on with it themselves.

Doing things through the WHO won’t increase the planet’s vaccine manufacturing capacity. Doing it through the WHO won’t (see comments) change the nature of a vaccine nor its replicability. It won’t even change the ability of any government and every to copy if they want to. It would though put the most crucial current and immediate health care problem in the charge of a ludicrously inefficient supranational bureaucracy.

Quite why this would be a good idea well, answers on a postcard to:

Stephen Buranyi is a writer specialising in science and the environment

He could use a justification for reducing the amount of research being done for he’s certainly not given one yet.

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Doing it through the WTO won;t change the nature of a vaccine nor its replicability.

Nor will doing it through the WHO…

rhoda klapp
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I don’t want their vaccine. I wonder how much is spent on flu vaccine every year, and whether a covid vaccine will be a similar money-spinner.

(You’d have to be foolhardy to take the vaccine before a few million other mugs have tried it and survived a few years. Especially when the epidemic is effectively over.)

Spike
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Has been, here, for 9 weeks.

The US government every year promotes a “flu shot” based on GUESSWORK of what strains will prevail that year. It recommends everyone get it, even in a recent year when it admitted its guess was wrong.

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Buranyi’s view is that we cannot devise a vaccine the way we do everything else because the single winner would make a fortune by reducing the availability of the product? Perhaps there will be several vaccines and the consumer will make a choice, partly based on cost. Perhaps we will choose no protection against this pesky chest cold until we reach 70 and develop trouble breathing.

Recall that the WHO originally actively denied the communicability of Covid to better serve their Chinese masters.

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“…give the job to the World Health Organisation and wait until the bureaucrats have sorted out the diversity issue on the choccie biccie committee…”

That made me laugh. I take it the big concern might be that a vaccine could be developed by an inadequately diversified crew, but putting the development under the WHO would ensure the correct photo ops at the end.

Of course, nothing stops the bureaucrats from jumping into the fray themselves.

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It’ll be interesting to see how the Russian vaccine works out. I’m sure the Dems would point out that any attempt at cooperation by Trump was absolute proof that he’s a Russian spy.

If he doesn’t offer to collaborate, this will of course be absolute proof that he doesn’t care about the welfare of the American people.

Paul Marks
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What is the point of a vaccine for a disease that has, largely, run its course? Had this stuff been available some months ago it would have saved thousands of lives. But it is fairly pointless now.

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‘ Had this stuff been available some months ago it would have saved thousands of lives.‘

Vaccines are contraindicated in individuals with compromised immune systems which most of those (95%) who died had.

The spread was within institutions, hospitals & care homes because of failure to observe established infection control: not to mix infectious people with non-infectious.

Vaccination is intended to prevent epidemic/pandemic. Using once epidemic/pandemic is present will make little difference, acquired immunity is already happening alongside innate immunity.