Surprisingly, The Guardian Gets It Right About The Brexit Peoples’ Vote

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Those who don’t like this idea of popular democracy by referendum are marching in London to have a popular referendum. The confusion of this idea is less than apparent to those wearing out their shoe leather. But, you know, everyones’ right to make a tit of themselves. What does amuse is that it’s The Guardian that actually publishes a piece telling us the truth here. We’ve already had that vote and Leave won:

March in London calling for people’s vote on Brexit
Celebrities are among the hundreds of thousands of people expected to call for a final vote on a Brexit deal later.

The basic idea doesn’t actually work given that there’s simply not the time to have such a vote. Any such referendum requires a 6 month lead time. We’re leaving in what is it, March next year? So, we can’t do this anyway. Especially given that whatever the deal to be voted upon hasn’t been agreed as yet.

Voters are deeply sceptical that a second referendum on Europe will settle the issue, according to a poll published on the day of a “people’s vote” march through central London.

There’s good sense of course, the country is rather split on the issue. But then that’s rather the point of democracy, that we get to work out which way the majority lies on such divisive issues and we go with that majority. Rather than the heads on pikes route.

Brexit is happening. The people voted.

Well, quite. We had the vote and we’re leaving. That’s that. One of the basic points being that we are indeed British, not continental, we don’t keep having referenda until the people vote the right way.

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There’s a large number of people who voted remain, got a shock, got over it and want to get on with it.

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People think the thing about democracy is voting. A lot of remainers I spoke to think that, and that voting again is perfectly OK if the public has (might have) changed it’s mind.

They are wrong, the two things about democracy are, given a vote, you can vote OUT what is in at the moment. The other and more important thing is, when you lose you gracefully handover power to the winner. THIS is what has failed in Brexit and in Trump 2016. You have to willingly give up power. And try to win next time.

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I’m confused. Is the proposed referendum on the deal or whether Brexit? And it would help if they could make up their minds. First it was not something the People could decide being ‘too complex’ even though a binary choice so only Parliament could – even a Court case about that – now only the People can decide not Parliament on something that is not a binary and will be complex. But exactly what would the second referendum decide? No to the deal, so UK leaves without one, or NO and the UK stays? What happens if Parliament votes No… Read more »

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What they *state* is they want “a vote on the terms of Brexit”. But they are lying. What *actually* want, and if you listen to the actual chants and read the banners in the march, and will refuse to back down until they get it, is a vote to *cancel* Brexit. And if they lose the vote to cancel Brexit, they will demand *another* vote. And another. and another and another and another.

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I’m not one of those* who claims that there will be no cost to Brexit – apart from anything else, if this were so it would be the first time in human history that a significant change was made with no cost to anybody. But one of the biggest ‘costs’ (more accurately, delay in business investment) is all the uncertainty. So I really can’t see how deferring a final decision and extending the period of uncertainty for many (probably at least 6) months in order to hold another referendum can possibly benefit anyone. * If they even exist – I… Read more »