Stu Peters And Manx Radio – It’s Amazing What’s Called Racism These Days

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We hold a certain candle for Stu Peters of Manx Radio around here. For he was part of that interesting little story about Richard Murphy and the Manx government’s wet squad that was to be set upon him.

This here is a little different. He’s being accused of racism, or racist speech, or, if you prefer, not kowtowing to current fashion, and so is suspended from his show on that Manx radio.

It’s all very serious you know, very serious indeed:

Presenter Stu Peters has been dropped from his Late Night talk show on Manx Radio pending an investigation into alleged racism.

The incident occurred on his Wednesday night show and included several phone calls to the show including two made by a young black man.

Or. So, what did he do? Shout that we’re gonna get all George Wallace on their painted arses? Well, not so much. A transcript of what was said exists:

Programme transcript
Stu Peters (SP): Let’s go to line one, I think we’ve got somebody else who wants to have a quick word. Hello, this is Manx Radio.

Jordan Maguire (JM): Hi, my name’s Jordan. I am a black man that lives on the Isle of Man.

SP: OK Jordan.

JM: Yeah, and I’m calling in reference to a post that you made stating “I expect” – is this Stu Peters, sorry?

SP: It is, yeah.

JM: Yeah, it says: “I expect the protest would be in front of the US embassy in Douglas, otherwise an Isle of Man protest about police brutality in America makes no sense except as a virtue signalling snowstorm. In other news, saw this on a graph earlier, in 2018 the US had around 50,000 white on black violent crimes compared with 400,000 black on black and around 550,000 black on white violent crimes.

SP: Yes.

JM: “All lives matter” in capitals. There so many things wrong with this I honestly don’t know where to start but…

SP: Well, no, go ahead. If you…

JM: I haven’t even got to my point. The fact that you’re starting that, insinuating a Manx protest over police brutality is pointless unless it’s in a destination that you deem fit is absurd, first of all.

SP: We’ll why are demonstrating outside of Tynwald?

JM: Why can’t I?

SP: You can demonstrate anywhere you like but it doesn’t make any sense to me, which is the point that I was trying to make on the Manx Forums thread.

JM: Explain why that doesn’t make sense to you.

SP: I don’t understand why people on the Isle of Man are protesting in support of Black Lives Matter in America, which is 3,000 miles away.

JM: Right, ok, so if people are breaking human rights anywhere around the world, that doesn’t make sense to you that we would stand up for it?

SP: But who are you standing…

JM: Let’s think about World War One. The official records show that 8,261 Manx men enlisted in the armed forces, which was 82.3% of the Isle of Man’s male population at the military age. Of these, 1,165 gave their lives and 987 were wounded. As these lives weren’t taken on our soil does it change what they fought for, or the atrocities that they had to endure? And I’m in no way comparing their sacrifices to that or protesters. The location of the war you fight has no bearing on the reasoning or the validity of.

SP: I just…

JM: And I want to understand why you think that, just because lives are being brutalised and oppressed in a country, anywhere around the world not just in America, why it doesn’t matter to you.

SP: Alright, can I speak for a second?

JM: I’d love you to.

SP: OK, I think that what happened to George Floyd is despicable. I think that what that police office did is probably criminal but we’ve got to wait until the courts decide that. But I think that what that man did is that he murdered George Floyd and I think that’s awful. I can understand to a point why people, I can understand very clearly why people in America are protesting about it. I can understand why Black Lives Matter – and American organisation – is protesting about it. But what I can’t understand is why people around the rest of the world are protesting, and specifically in the Isle of Man, why you would have a protest outside of Tynwald about it?

JM: OK, so, when you’re saying “all lives matter” that first of all is just derogatory and ridiculous…

SP: No, it’s not derogatory.

JM: For all lives – listen – for all lives to matter we have to raise the people of all creed, colours, religions to the level that white people’s privilege allows them to be. For all lives to matter, black and other…

SP: I’ve had no more privilege in my life than you have Jordan.

JM: Excuse me?

SP: I’ve had no more privilege in my life than you have. I’m a white man, you’re a black man you say.

JM: If you believe that then you’re already – this is exactly what white privilege is. I’m not saying that you haven’t, like, endured anything in your life. But you have automatically – the system is built for you to win already. I have to go through everything in my daily life, and I have to go through these things that you don’t see so you don’t think they exist. Or, I kind of believe that you’re an intellectual man to a degree. You’re either extremely ignorant or extremely – I don’t know what you are, but I’m not talking with you any longer…

SP: Well…

JM: With that kind of opinion.

SP: I think…

JM: I hope that you can be saved from your own ignorance and I encourage you to enlighten yourself.

SP: Well…

JM: On issues that people such as myself have to face every single day, and both realise and empathise with the – the world that we live in is far from a [level] playing field….

SP: Can I speak again or are you just going to rant?

JM: Being on this earth. Goodbye.

SP: You’re just going to rant. OK. Well, that was good. Let’s move on, we’ve got somebody else on line two. Hello, this is Late, Live and Unleashed, apparently.

Pick the racism out of that!

Of course, there are those who say that the statement “All lives matter” is racist. And I’m sure we could round up a few prepared to go to the wire defending the insistence that not agreeing with current fashion is by and in itself racism. But other than the maniacs anyone want to try and pick the racism out of that?

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Boganboy
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Boganboy

Well, I of course feel that JM is racist. Anyone want to guess the colour of my skin?

MrYan
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MrYan

Didn’t the woke BBC find out what happens when you get rid of popular presenters for effectively whiney SJW reasons. They at least are shielded from commercial pressures by the TV tax – let’s hope the employers here aren’t so fortunate.

Spike
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Spike

Yes, indeed, if the station finishes its “investigation” and sacks this guy on the basis of interviews like the one laid out here, let’s hope it loses listeners and revenue.

Anon
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Anon

Anyone who thinks white privilege exists in the UK – should really read the Jay inquiry. For those girls it was more like a penalty for being white – not a privilege.

asiaseen
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asiaseen

I am a white elderly Englishman and I don’t deny that there have been times when I have benefitted from it. Disclaimer: I am also in a micegenous relationship (English/Chinese)
However, I don’t understand why the term “racial” is automatically assumed to be white/black. Every race has its hierachy of dislike so why do those of African origin assume they have a “privileged” position?

John B
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John B

It is impossible to reason with anyone who has no ability to reason.

Spike
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Spike

The only decisive “white privilege” is not to have self-appointed representatives who give me the DEBILITATING narrative that everyone takes one look at my skin color and starts plotting to ruin my day. (Why ever work hard if that were true?!)

However, guilty white liberals falling all over themselves to apologize to the “black community” for the “pain and suffering” caused by someone else’s words may eventually occupy the same spot in the food chain.

Phoenix44
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Phoenix44

When people have been told for all their lives that their lack of anything is not their fault but someone else’s, that other people have more than you simply because of the colour of their skin, that any problem you have is caused by racism, that other people owe you stuff, then you get this sort of nonsense.

jgh
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jgh

I’d like to see this idiot come to The Manor and Shiregreen and scream “White Priviledge!!!!!” at the residents.

Bongo
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Bongo

The last 7 years has seen the criminalisation of drugs like khat and menthol cigarettes. White people are under-represented as consumers of these drugs, but are over-represented in the chambers that make the laws banning them.
Same principle with Minimum Unit Pricing of alcohol in Scotland. Disgusting.
The only problem with this analysis is teasing out whether this is indirect racism, or just indifference from the bastards in power to the things poor people do to get them through.

Spike
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Spike

The belief among elites that we can lift people up at gunpoint by restraining their choices, does fall disproportionately upon the poor (as they are the ones making “unwise” decisions) but not necessarily on any race.

The jihad against menthol, yes, that has African-Americans in mind. That’s their favorite flavor, so we can help them especially by…making it a crime. Now, menthol cigarettes are markedly bad for you; much less so menthol vapes, the object of a recent ban. Ultimately the only way to lift them up (and address “affordability”) is to control their entire spending.

Charles
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Charles

“All lives matter” sounds like a perfectly fine sentiment which couldn’t possibly be racist, doesn’t it? But the problem is where is is usually used, which is in response to “black lives matter”, and the way it is used. It is very often used in a way which is dismissive and dishonest because the person using it is really advocating that nothing should be done. If “all lives matter” really meant what the words say, then we’d see it at lots of protests against injustices sufferered by white people, black people, and people of any kind that suffer injustice. However,… Read more »

Spike
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Spike

Ah, so when someone says “all lives matter,” he really means “black lives don’t matter.” It’s a dog whistle by which all us racists understand that language is used to mean the exact opposite. To quote you nearby, “If that’s the case, you should be able to cite a few representative examples.” You can’t, “systemic racism” is something you just know, extending to the current meme that we can “be racist” despite feeling no antipathy at all toward the aggrieved race. Your opponents are “insincere.”

Michael van der Riet
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Michael van der Riet

I was going to say that it is extremely difficult to argue with smart people and impossible to argue with idiots, but in context that could easily be taken as racist and get me removed from this platform so I won’t say it.