Paris’ Sex Doll Brothel – Substitute For Or Complement To Rape?

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A brothel stocked with sex dolls is not likely to be of great personal interest to any of us here. It is of interest in a more intellectual sense of course. For what is it that should be done about such things? Sure, we’re all proper liberals so how consenting adults get their rocks off is nothing to do with us. But perhaps the feminists are right? That by objectifying sex to the point of having it with a plastic doll, this objectifies women and leads to an increase in rape?

If that were so then we’d have to think rather harder about whether such sex doll brothels should be allowed.

Paris councillors will this week examine calls to shut down France’s first ever sex doll brothel, which opened earlier this year and currently has four silicone women ready for “rent”.
The move comes after police visited the premises in the middle-class 14th arrondissement and determined that it was breaking no laws and was not a threat to public order.

Communist members of the Paris Council have tabled a motion calling for the closure of the “brothel” on moral grounds, while feminist groups argue that it is encouraging a culture of rape.

A culture of rape, eh?

Lorraine Questiaux of the feminist group Mouvement du Nid (Nest Movement) has argued that Xdolls is making money from “simulating the rape of a woman.”

“Can we in France approve a business that is based on the promotion of rape?” she asked.

That’s not quite the point. If it creates an increase in the incidence of rape then perhaps a ban might be appropriate. The question being, does it?

The thing is we do know about this. We had an explosion of internet porn in the 1990s and 00s. We can track as broadband moved out across county lines and so on. And as it did so the rape rate fell. Yes, it’s close enough, the correlation, that we’re sure it was causative. One way of describing this is that men who get their jollies don’t go out raping. Ways of men getting jollies without rape therefore reduce the incidence of rape. That is, other methods of jollies are substitutes for, not complements to, rape.

Thus, if rape is our concern, we’d probably be better off encouraging, not banning, such sex doll brothels. Something that would be reasonably obvious to anyone who had actually met a few male human beings. You know, given their obvious interest in jollies. But then there is this rumour that the more militant end of the feminist movement hasn’t met that many male humans.

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Sexual satisfaction is an inherent need that people turn to the market to satisfy, including in an impersonal but informative way, the “market” in the price one must pay to have a committed relationship with a member of the opposite sex. Feminists, especially those out on the “all sex is rape” fringe, should not worry that sex with a machine is present in the market. They should worry about whether sex with a machine is more attractive than sex with a feminist. Their latest work product, California’s legal standards for informed consent to sex, will tend to make it so.

Rhoda Klapp
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Rhoda Klapp

Needs to be a machine which can print out or a consent form.

Tom
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Tom

Does that mean that women ‘rape’ their vibrators?

Mr Ecks
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Mr Ecks

More femmi-cowshit from slags who have nothing to say about a daily tide of real rapes committed by imported evildoers.

Piss on them. And shut them down not the Plastic Knocking Shop.

allthegoodnamesaretaken
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allthegoodnamesaretaken

Why are most feminists so fat?

“Because if they were remotely attractive to the opposite sex they would have had some experience with boys and would have learned that all the “ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS” and so on and so forth rhetoric taught by their “professors” is highly false. When you look like what a hangover feels like, kinda hard to have boyfriends.

Because they didn’t get anything out of being thin. I tried it and it didn’t improve my life; it only lengthened it, which isn’t really good when your life is going to be shitty.”

Southerner
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allthegoodnames you are so politically incorrect. I love it.

jgh
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jgh

The more than these people go on about things like this, the more they are screaming into people’s conciousness “all that stuff over the last hundred years or so trying to educate people that women do actually like sex, and it is allowable for women to like sex, that’s all a lie”. They are actively moving us back to the culture of “that nastiness is the thing you have to put up with in order to have children”.

So Much For Subtlety
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So Much For Subtlety

I love the Communists coming over all Mary Whitehouse. It is like there is a niche in the market and if it is unfilled, it will be filled. Like the allegation there no Altar remains empty for long. However it is nonsense. Even if we ignore the fact that sex robots are robots and hence cannot be raped. This appears to be a story that came from a misinterpretation of the sex doll maker’s comment that his robots came with a “reluctant” option. Reluctant is not rape. Or most married men would be in prison. Reluctant is just hard to… Read more »

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squawkbox

The basic feminist problem is that while they loudly and persistently claim they want to be independent of men they still crave male attention as much as the least liberated woman. And what the use of sex dolls says is “on balance, I would sooner be with all this squishy Taiwanese circuitry than you”. Major insult to the feminist ego. How it will be resolved I don’t know, but the obvious current trends of sex substitutes getting cuter and feminists continuing to get fatter, dumber and more annoying does not augur well.

bloke in spain
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bloke in spain

I’m sure this is an area just crying out for some EU regulation. No doubt it’ll be sticking it’s oar in shortly.

Rhoda Klapp
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Rhoda Klapp

Is that meant to be a double entendre? Of course it is.

Maritime Barbarian
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Maritime Barbarian

Never having paid for it, this isn’t my expertise. But it’s a chance to recycle an old joke.
I read about a brothel set up in an old undertaker’s premises.
Cue the tabloid headline:
“Still lots of stiffs in the old funeral parlour”.

MC
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MC

How can anyone who is a Communist possibly object to anything on moral grounds?

Sex with an inanimate object – it’s immoral! 100m killed by communism – whatevs…

Patrick
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Patrick

At some point anyone will be able to keep and shag a sexbot that is manifestly more beautiful, accommodating and lovely in every way than a real woman. Think along the lines of the female replicants in Blade Runner.
At this point men and women will only get jiggy with each other ’cause they really like each other and they dig the icky messy imperfection of it all. The hairy wimminz will keep on ranting – but will also keep an adonis in the stair cupboard. Sly dogs. Ho hum….